Welcome to the Quantum Realm. The production of the convention was large in scale: it was filmed at a real arena in Los Angeles and they dropped a conventions-worth of balloons from the ceiling. An incompetent boss [like Mike] is the greatest thing in the world then you can do what you like. Were you surprised? If she had asked the question, do you think would Gary have sacrificed himself? And it's kind of also not fair." "It was really emotional because it was the last episode and that was us kind of saying goodbye even though we had other stuff to shoot," he says. https://www.yahoo.com/tv/veep-showrunner-david-mandel-responds-labor-day-theories-162157120.html. A few suggested either watching an interview online in which Anna says it herself (see above), or simply just calling her Anna to be safe. So for him to lay the lipstick on the casket? It would be a blast. I cant swear to you she was sitting there going, This is my father figure, with him, but certainly for the audience, you start to realize, Oh, this burned-out, alcoholic, political operative is the closest thing shes ever known to a genuine, at least sort of older man that thought kindly of her. [Laughs. The government shutdown episode. And of course he would be like, Yes.. This isn't the first time the story of Selena's epic rise to fameand untimely demise in 1995have been put to film. This was a really [important] scene, and we wanted to make sure it gelled, so we worked on it in for a while to find the flow of it. 2023 Oscars predictions: See who will win at the 95th Academy Awards. "You don't have to worry," he said, pleasantly startled. And maybe the first time weve seen Bens guard down a little bit too, just in the expression of his emotion. "You realize when something like that happens, you're like, 'Oh yeah, this relationship is done. Thats throughout your life, if thats what youre going to invest in the world, and thats the end of your life. But at the moment where perhaps it most counted, she does have these regrets. But keep in mind, as far as Garys concerned, she shouldve been president years ago. She adds with a laugh: "So, tough s---. 1. That became the jumping-off point, and she had done so many terrible things, that party platform issues were just never going to be enough. He has no personal identity, so Selina becoming president is like getting the key and him becoming president. We definitely liked the idea of what he went into was interesting. So that's what brought him back to that funeral because everybody else could care less about her, but he had this kernel of authentic love for her. You dont really want Selina to be president, you kind of want Julia to be president. And whose was the hardest to settle on?I most loved Richard being president, and I loved the three-state solution to the [Israeli-Palestinian] crisis, because even I as the writer have no idea what the third state is. Origins of Labor Day. ", It was during that last line that Gary was accosted by two FBI agents on the side of the stage. Because that moment she realized she wasnt going to have to change it to something else. Will looks like he has PTSD sometimes. Thats the wrong guy. Him seeing her just standing there, looking at whats happening, I knew, shes in on this. Theres no rule that says she has to, but at the end of the day, thats who she is. As a whole, I was really satisfied by where they were taking the end because Selina was so awful, so bitter, so narcissistic and so selfish without any empathy. Andrew owns a large company, which is revealed to have funded both sides of the 2012 presidential election. It might be revealed down the road. Not to compare it to addiction, but he was addicted to Selina and it takes somebody hitting the bottom to wake up, and that was Gary's rock bottom. I think maybe what you were expecting is her almost being dismissive of Kent and ready to jump in. So I think the level of depravity that happened here, I wasnt necessarily surprised. Like she instinctively yelled out for Gary and then realizes it. You can read that gesture as closure, but not full forgiveness. MANDEL RESPONDS: Sadly, I think theyre right, he says. Before the moment turned into something more shattering, though, she was jolted out of her daze when the Israeli prime minister calls, and she quickly reverted to charm mode. And the camera finds her contemplating it, like struck that its happening. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Two-thirds of the fans who responded said they believe Selina has redeeming qualities, though they definitely had to reach to name some. "It's kind of important actually. "Thank you and God bless America!". She made eye contact with Gary, who looked at her for help as he was being led away, to which she simply looked away and continued the speech that she had swiped from the war hero. And its hard to make the audience think that in terms of her behavior to Catherine, this is any worse than anything else she has previously said to Catherine. That cant hit her until the White House. However, proof begins to surface that Chung was actually born overseas (in like Brazil or something unexpected) and he is thrown out of office. And that was the beginning of her real healing. During her desperate, obsessive drive to return to . She's not sympathetic toward others. Press J to jump to the feed. And I think he honestly was there to pay his respects. In the beginning of the season, you told me that Gary viewed her as a forever queen. And always the president in his eyes. I think then youre sort of in Bill OReilly territory. "He's very angry," says Hale. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: So 50 percent had no idea the former TNT series existed. Louis-Dreyfus uses the words "pretty intense" to describe that moment. And then he puts a blindfold on, plays the tape, and just starts reaching in the bag for the items. Teleplay by Kevin Cecil, Roger Drew & Andy Riley Story by Armando Iannucci Directed by Stephanie Laing "I think it's called 'The Man Who Shits Triangles.'" -- Ben. Its been a well-received season of change for HBOs Veep, but as we found out when we posed showrunner David Mandels 13 questions to fans, there are two things you can count on remaining the same: viewers love-hate relationship with Jonah and their shared desire to know what Gary did for Selina on Labor Day. It was very emotional on set when you called a series wrap on her after filming; she has said she wasnt able to participate in season 6 because of illness. In some interesting, weird way, Im almost curious as to what he wouldve done had she actually asked him. For many of us, that means time off work, picnics and pool parties, and maybe watching a . Both Labor Day and May Day, the two worker holidays, grew out of violent clashes between labor and police in the American Midwest.What is known as the Haymarket Riot (or . ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Please. The very first Labor Day in the country was celebrated in 1882, and it became an official federal holiday in 1894. The coming to terms with what youve done and what you did is somewhat horrific. He seems goofy enough to pull it off, he simply says, I think he just thinks corduroy is not very tasteful.. Any kind of obscenities that have been thrown at him from her, he just doesnt hear it. "Never mind, forget I ever said anything. And were all going to missArmando. TVLINE | How does this impact their relationship moving forward? By the late 19th century, the Industrial Revolution had made working life miserable for people around the world. And as we started doing this season, we werent trying to be greedy, but I wrote down this idea that wed end up back in the Oval and Sue would be there. And I do think its a little hopeful. So again, it wouldve been Jonahs fault that she didnt get what she wanted. It was lovely that he came to New York for the premiere, and obviously, hes busy with [upcoming HBO space comedy Avenue 5]. We once played with an idea that when you jumped to the future and Richard was president, and he might have asked her to be his vice president in the future sort of a little bit of a gray-haired, foreign policy expert to his younger, more novice politician. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: The majority got it right (K-lumsky). But let me tell you, when youre President of the United States, Gary Walsh is not the guy you want around you. I mean, the fact that he says, Im fing everything to you is just Gary would never in his wildest dreams have thought to talk to his queen that way. The holiday falls on the first Monday of . He was ready to do whatever she asked. My guess is that I think he was probably in prison for about 20 years. So what is the worst thing that she could do that is unlike anything shes ever done? Pam Grier reflects on her most iconic roles, from. She wanted the Dubonnet. I kind of love that. Except the desired outcome would be the opposite: wed be holding our breath to see if Jonah would escape danger but wed be super upset and disappointed each time he survived, MANDEL RESPONDS: Thatd be very funny, he says of having a Carrie-type crier. Veep is an HBO satirical dark comedy about the various dysfunctional staffers in the office of ineffectual Vice President of the United States Selina Meyer, played by Julia Louis-Dreyfus (of Seinfeld and The New Adventures of Old Christine fame). Hes got huge rose-colored glasses on. When watching Veep, Tony Hale can perennially be spotted over the shoulder of Julia Louis-Dreyfus starring character Selina Meyer. She didnt really care about Gary but selfishly, I think she thinks that she cant survive without him around. "It was like you've got a 10,000-piece puzzle and it's that one last tiny piece and it fits in perfectly. The joke of Tom Hankss death bumping news of hers is the ultimate karmic payback and a wonderful, wicked callback to the pilot. We didnt know if it would happen, and certainly everything would have worked without. Chung asks Jonah to be his running mate, and he accepts. It was kinda great., TRUMP MOMENT as @VeepHBO closing credit scene is ???????????? Thats why we have climate deniers, we have anti-vaxxers, and we are seeing what those things wrought. She is everything that is bad about politics: no real vision or drive to lead via policy decisions. And there's no coming back. American adaptation of The Thick of It and a Spiritual Successor to the American . She wasnt completely disconnected. Im just now thinking about this, but I think during those 20 years, there was probably a good five years in the beginning that he thought she was going to change her mind and wake up and realize how special he was to her. Why would she want to be separated from me? So obviously the favor was, Do you want a coffee? Because thats always been the favor. For this scene they just bring up the day in which something happened. I think even when shes nice, theres usually ulterior motives or things that will get her to throw it away in a second., And as for the assessment of Selinas sexual prowess: I think she would take a lot of pride in knowing that people think shes good in bed, he says. Did you feel the weight of it while you were shooting it? Its just so much joy to be able to talk about all that stuff any time we get together. He was the one who believed the most in the purity and potential of government. Mike gives a morning press briefing about Selina's first state visit from the Israeli Prime Minister. Why am I here? Julia Louis-Dreyfus., MANDEL RESPONDS: Hearing that last answer, Mandel can only laugh: Have our standards for what a president is dropped so far in the last two years that this is what were saying is good about Selina Meyer? But looking at the big picture I find that [two-thirds number] fascinating, because I think shes a horrible person! I always catered it to Gary just treating what she was saying as an everyday request and never considering what she was really asking. What do you imagine happened to him in prison? Oh my God, shes the worst! With Gary, the codependency and dysfunction and obsession with her is going so fast that he couldnt stop himself. Its so incredibly gratifying. And what that says to me is, again, another picture of her weakness and her cowardice. Its not what comes later when shes alone but its that moment of, its like a chill runs down your body because you get the sense that a little chill is running down her. I feel like the sun has set on her career., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Yes, 85 percent of people said theyd like to know what Gary and Selina were referring to in Season 4s legendary East Wing blowup when he yelled, Can you find somebody else who did what I did? and she responded, You mean on Labor Day? About half of those people, without provocation, also added that theyd like to know what was in the trash bag that Selina made Gary retrieve in Season 2s Shutdown. The 15 percent who said no to a Labor Day reveal feel as Eman does: Some things are more beautiful when left unexplained., MANDEL RESPONDS: I didnt know the trash bag was on their minds quite as much, but thats fascinating. Andrew Meyer is the ex-husband of former President Selina Meyer and the father of Catherine Meyer. Gary disposed of a body for her. For example, when the beautiful men were working for Jonah last year as interns, and he really sort of took to them. Hell hath no fury like a perpetually under-appreciated, eternally . MANDEL RESPONDS: I could see that, he says of Mike as an ineffective but well-liked high school teacher. He got what we were going for at the end there, and was proud to be a part of it, and it just put a huge smile on Julias and my faces. The New York Times Magazine recently posited that at the center of the acerbic satire that is "Veep" sits "the singularly awkward, brutal, tender, nonromantic romance between Selina and Gary.". But the way she talks about the position in the finale is so warped its declawing, its demeaning, its worse than death that she sounds victimized for having to serve in that position, which is the second most powerful personOne of the many reasons we called the final episode Veep is that who is going to be her vice president is such a giant piece of her salvation. Its tiny as f, its miniscule as all hell, but its just perfect, seeing this just I dont know, revulsion. Hes the same guy just a little grayer here and there, maybe a little tanner. Captured and kidnapped by some sort of terrorist act and put in a room with Sarin gas, like Peter Quinn. His personal pick for a crossover? But this is a woman at the end of the day that has sacrificed everythingeverythingto be in this office. Then of course, like all bullies because she is a bully the best defense is a good offense. We were crying during the table read. Of all the people in the world you could pick, that decision to make Jonah vice president again is also part of the reason thats the title of this episode. Among the who's-who . It would have just had less of the footage of The Money Pit and whatnot. But dont we already have Catherine? Copyright 2023 Meredith Corporation. Not really, he says. We then tried to jam that into the last year, season 6, and then finally got it into season 7. Labor Day represented the "reentry" into city life and the retirement of white summer clothes after a summer of leisure for the upper classes, Steele says. Im a huge fan. Weve been gone a year, and were back, and were not taking any prisoners. I dont think we can compete. He knows all the skeletons. Yes. And that sat with me over the time of when Julia had cancer. She could be a fierce fighter for womens rights and equality. Sydney Grullon spoke more generally: I dont think shes inherently awful, I think deep down she thinks what shes doing is good, at least what she was doing while in office. Prakram Bhushan, meanwhile, was incredibly specific: Selina is a good lover. ", The flash-forward to the funeral gave glimpses of how everyone in Selina's orbit turned out: Jonah (Timothy Simons) was impeached! April 28, 2017, 12:21 PM. Oura Ring 3 vs. We had this really nice moment after the screening, just kind of catching up and a little bit of chit-chatting. It was fun to be able to say that kind of stuff, and then just kind of retract and find ways to come off of it. And so in becoming president, Montez would have held on to her, and that there would have been a moment or two when we went back to the Montez White House, or even maybe trying to call Montez and Sue would have answered the phone, some version of that. He has to be there. I really do love Mike becoming the Walter Cronkite, the most trusted man in America. And so Gary wouldnt really listen to what shes actually saying. The Federal Labor Day Holiday Is Created. Below, in a chat with THR, Hale digs into the shocking events of the series finale, reveals how he and Louis-Dreyfus went about filming the scene, and offers up a take that might just helpVeep viewers sleep at night when they think about Garys fate. How did you react when you read the script? Veep deliberately feints, more than once, toward real, textual tragedySelina's horrible, accidental execution of her ex-husband, Andrew ( David Pasquesi ), or Amy's suspicion that . And its not easy for her, but its not as hard as it probably should be, either. The fact that I saw Selina do nothing was immediate evidence that she was a part of this. He just keeps bouncing back to this dysfunction. And she can't really allow herself to question that sacrifice. And that might be his own wake-up because Gary was always, always buttoned up. this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. Mike McLintock anchored coverage of Selina's funeral as her coffin entered the vagina-shaped crypt. And sadly, very quickly, it just became clear the most horrible thing she could conceivably do would be to the only person who ever cared about her and she ever cared about, which was Gary. Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. I know people have been waiting for it. Tragic. The boat thing was something we had thought a lot about, honestly, when I first got to the show, just the idea that its a boat, not the date, I thought that would be a really fun thing. I think we all hope youll miss each other enough that youll come up with something down the line. They were switching over to the movie side, so the lights came up, and there was no one saying like, And now well go over here. They were taking a pause, and the pause allowed the laughter to keep rolling, and people kind of stared back at us. From what I remember, I think we did the scene several times before the balloons. Shell never allow herself to sit in those feelings, but she does feel them and then stuffs them down and turns it back on. But its that same street fighter that then continues to do all of those other horrible things. But it was nice to see Veeps international fanbase come out to play: Im European, and Europe has a wonderful history regarding our attitude towards Jews, wrote Viktor, whos from Croatia. I dont know quite what hes doing there, but its kind of wonderful., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Mandel admits some of his questions werent necessarily designed to be answered. I think he has forgiven her. Was the attitude in the writers room this season one of The cruelty, ignorance and hypocrisy in this world needs an equal and opposite force more than ever, or was it Its our last season, so lets adopt a scorched Earth policy, or maybe a bit of both?I go for a little bit of both, and Ill throw a third thing in. But the arbitrary rule all but . He placed the lipstick on the coffin and touched the coffin somberly before walking away. Right before she hit the stage in Charlotte to accept her party's nomination for president, she tried to prepare Gary for what was about to hit him, while he tried to prepare her for the spotlight with a special lipstick. this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. (An earlier version of the script had him saying that she looked stunning.) Im sad because I love my friends and when you spend eight years with people, you really become a family. At turns heartbreaking and hilarious, the showdown expertly acted by Emmy winners Julia Louis-Dreyfuss and Tony Hale dramatically altered the power dynamic between the two characters, while also setting up a doozy of a mystery: What did Selina do on that fateful Labor Day, and how exactly didGary cover (or clean) it up? What else could she do that would be even worse than breaking up with Jaffar? Yes, he enjoyed seeing people turn real Trump team gaffes into Veep closing-credits sequences like the executive order one above or Sean Spicers infamous Hitler remarks below. It was so satisfying on so many levels. As for the others: I understand the Jonah one, but I think theres an opportunity if youre the right person. So, when she first mentioned Gary, theres just this subtle thing on her face thats just so wonderful. She has been riding that thing, and its brought up a lot though obviously her anger at Selena, and all of those things. But that secret, whatever itis, trumps them all. 2023 The Hollywood Reporter, LLC. His favorite experience was when the American Film Institute showed clips from the 10 series it was honoring and, alphabetically, Veep came last. HBO's Official 2017 Emmy After Party - Inside. Oh, that sucks! Veep. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 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