Fact-Checking Mtley Cre's Netflix Movie 'The Dirt' - Rolling Stone And it was after the show, not before. Oh, and around the time of the Girls, Girls, Girls tour, Aerosmith apparently left a note on Mtley Cres jet, describing the Cre as crashing and burning and making clear that Steven Tyler and Joe Perry had been there and could help us.. 17-Down, Three Letters: Party for One artist Carly ___ Jepsen. 4. He was a well-known singer and multi-instrumentalist in the Los Angeles hard rock scene, and Lee was a giant fan of his, to the point where the drummer ended up joining his band Suite 19 for a year and a half. The whole thing is also based on a book that bassist Nikki Sixx now claims has at least one story in which he writes that he pretty much raped a woman was possibly greatly embellished or made up. He also claimed he was on drugs during the interviews with writer Neil Strauss and doesnt remember much of that time. The closest known connection between the scene (in which the hapless guitarist is not mentioned by name) and reality, Leon was a highly regarded guitarist who briefly rehearsed alongside Sixx and Tommy Lee. The thing is, in the real world it's incredibly easy to get in deep trouble for the kind of things the band members have gotten up to. Clearly with Thaler vanishing earlier in the movie somebody else had to get the tattoo. Perhaps Thaler achieved some. Spoilers are ahead. inally receiving a cinematic adaptation from Netflix, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Maybe deep down I knew it was going to happen one day, Neil later recounted in The Heroin Diaries. The furniture smashed into two brand-new Mercedes-Benzes that were parked below. The real Doc McGhee says that he never met Nikki Sixx's mother. We met him at the Santa Monica Civic Center after a show. Together, they both notice Micks classified ad offering a loud, rude, aggressive guitar player. Mick shows up to a jam session, rocks louder than anyone, and fires poor Robin on the spot. In the book: Nikki and Mick first meet at a liquor store. Creative financing, Investment consultant, hard money lending. Yes. She resisted and started punching Lee. They actually met up with him at a Hyatt with a team of lawyers and managers around them. If you've read Thaler's previous book, Nudge, you know he's an economist who studies why . That's a good question. He had started thinking that his glam metal days (and subsequently his Motley Crue career) was over, and he wanted to do something else. (Tension had been mounting for years, and Vinces refusal to embrace sobriety proves one of the last straws.) Vince initially doesnt follow up on Tommys invitation to check out his new band, but right when Rock Candy is falling apart, Tommy calls again. Tommy couldn't stop making faces and Mick was just there. Neil's post reads, " Breaking The Band, fing memories from a manager, Doug Thaler, who can't remember that he's the one who actually broke up the band! While Sixx himself has openly discussed his traumatic childhood, the incident in question has largely gone unexamined. "Nikki snorted some ants, so Ozzy snorted these ants, but then Ozzy peedand then licked up the pee." Mars even drunkenly gave Sixx his phone number. It was extremely tense, but Neil eventually agreed to stop by the studio and hear their in-progress record. ), In the book: The universe of Mtley Cre contains a constantly rotating roster of randomly assorted rock stars. I told them that I wasnt interested and I was going to put a band together and write my own songs and do what Eric Clapton does or Jimi Hendrix. We met him at the Santa Monica Civic Center after a show. Sixx's comment about possibly embellishing the rape story in the book applies . Vince says that he came home in 1986 from serving his 19-day manslaughter sentence to find that Beth had left with their two-and-a-half year-old daughter Elizabeth and took everything in the house. As president of the band's business affairs, Nikki Sixx was in town for the duration of the proceedings. Near the end, McGhee surprises Sixx by bringing his mother to the lobby of his hotel. 13. Early in the film, a teenaged Nikki Sixx gets embroiled in a heated argument with his mother. Or when Nikki pranks John Corabi on tour by dousing his hotel-room door in hair spray and setting it on fire. We poured through various moments in the film and found 10 worth fact checking: As The Dirt begins in the early days of Motley Crue, there is a scene featuring a borderline incompetent guitarist auditioning for the band. It broke up because he was too much of a py who didn't just say, 'Hey guys! There, Nikki pleads with Vince to rejoin Mtley Cre, dubbing the group a family and apologizing for not being there when Skylar passed. Yes. Tommy quits the band in 1999 after Vince sucker punches him. When Neil first comes onscreen in The Dirt, hes singing Billy Squiers My Kind of Lover at a backyard party while the women up front go insane for him. They actually met backstage at an REO Speedwagon concert after his accountant introduced them. However, the scene does line up with the period when Neil was the only sober member of the band (following his manslaughter drunk driving conviction). In the film's credits, he is named Randy, but research states thatthe man's actual name is Rodney Anthony (whether Randy is a nickname, were not sure). This email will be used to sign into all New York sites. Let's take a week off and come back with cooler heads.' Instead, The Dirt movie puts forth a considerably cleaner image of the band in 2019, embracing a handful of specific events from decades ago, while glossing over significant others (namely an account of rape, which is mentioned twice in the book). The film stars Douglas Booth, Colson Baker, Daniel Webber, and Iwan Rheon. I just think that you have to be honest about decisions that we made and then how we got to where we're at today. According to ultimateclassicrock.com, Thaler was cut from the movie in the interest of "keeping the narrative moving". Lead singer Vince Neil (Daniel Webber) and guitarist Mick Mars (Iwan Rheon) sporadically provide commentary, as well. Will we ever know? In the book: Years before he met Nikki, Tommy, and Vince, Mick says someone called his former band, White Horse, a motley-looking crew. The phrase stuck with him, and he wrote it down as the potential name for a future group. Anderson blamed him for giving her hepatitis C. Seeing that all of this scandalous drama got far more attention than the band's music in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that she was omitted from the movie, unless it was at the direct request of Tommy Lee and/or they're planning to do a sequel. The new Mtley Cre movie 'The Dirt' (available on NetFlix) is surprisingly accurate, but it still gets at least 13 things wrong. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. I'm addicted to drugs but have huge animosity because she abandoned me." The couple had two children together. The Dirt movie seems to be in line with the true story, depicting this as it's been reported. Of course, Neil's brief involvement with a pre-fame Anderson was merely an aperitif compared to the vast banquet of celebrity tabloid antics that was the Baywatch star's whirlwind romance with and marriage to Lee. While Elektra did hand over the rights in real life as well, it was actually a much more difficult and important event than the movie shows. Doug was a good guy and its kinda shitty he got cut from this movie, but I think this is as good a version as any. Thaler who is only briefly seen on screen then disappears, never to be featured again in the film. 6. It just wasn't sounding good to me. He later added that his departure from the band was "the last thing (I) thought would happen. Though Motley Crue went on to record an album with John Corabi on lead vocals, the material from those Neil rehearsals never saw the light of day. But he was also blackout drunk back then. Movie Corabi, however, seems to be incapable of this. He also brought his partner, Doug Thaler. Also, they didn't sign with Zutaut after speaking with him for less than sixty seconds at a bar. Skylar endured six operations and extensive chemotherapy and radiation treatments over the course of the next four months, but it didn't stop the disease. Motley Crue later settled out of court. In the film, after only the briefest of previous conversations, Elektra Records executive Tom Zutaut meets Sixx at a bar and tells him the label is handing over the rights to the bands publishing. When he eventually did come to a session, they didn't play "Live Wire" because Nikki Sixx hadn't penned the song yet. As we analyzed the facts vs. the fiction in the movie, we learned that according to Tommy Lee, this happened in real life. Privacy Policy and "I wanted the band to continue a straight hard-rock direction but they wanted to go in a blues direction," Neil explained during a 1993 interview with the LA Times. The new Mtley Cre movie 'The Dirt' (available on NetFlix) is surprisingly accurate, but it still gets at least 13 things wrong. That's my philosophy of life. The 100 Greatest TV Shows of All Time And Ozzy Osbourne (Tony Cavalero) reenacts that time he snorted a line of ants and licked up his own urine. Ozzy Osbourne has always claimed to have no memory of the famous story in The Dirt movie and book where he sniffs a line of ants in front of the band. Thaler was a successful agent, an award-winning personal manager, and a former musician who played alongside Ronnie James Dio for five years. Nikki adds the final spelling touches. "The band has lots of regrets," Nikki Sixx said in a Build Series interview. 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Editors picks You\'ll receive the next newsletter in your inbox. Lee says that he pushed McGhee in his "fat little chest," knocking him to the ground. She accused him of giving her hepatitis C. All of this insanity got about 10,000 times more attention than anything the band did in the Nineties, but theres not even a single mention of her name in the movie. The highly impressed Sixx hung on until the end, and the two resumed talking. But at least it doesnt show them writing We Will Rock You in the Eighties. -Rolling Stone, No. You have to truncate stuff, and you have to be creative with it. Honestly, I hate to say this, but I think they got every fu**ing thing perfect.". Sixx tells him the band is over and he is looking to start a new one. How The Dirt Ignored Motley Crue's True Story. Securing The Rights to Their Publishing Was Much More Difficult Than Portrayed Adding their two or three cents are the likes of Elektra Records boy genius Tom Zutaut, manager Doc McGhee, replacement lead singer John Corabi, and even Sylvia Rhone, a record executive who responds to the time Nikki Sixx called her the C-word in Spin magazine (and on stage) in 1998. By submitting your email, you agree to our Terms and Privacy Policy and to receive email correspondence from us. He was under the impression that the gloves constituted having a look, and we tried not to say anything to the contrary because he was all we had.. Copyright 2023 Penske Business Media, LLC. Later, Tom joins Geffen Records, signs a little band named Guns n Roses, and tries to get Nikki to produce their first record. Tommy Lee and Sixx may have had pouffier hair than their onscreen counterparts, but the filmmakers went to great lengths to capture the look and vibe of the Eighties Sunset Strip scene. Tom Zutaut Didnt Sign Them That Easily It happened when they were in a limo, not a bus. Theres not even a hint that he tried to launch a solo career. The bands members detail as much in the 2001 book The Dirt: Confessions of the Worlds Most Notorious Rock Band, co-written by Neil Strauss, which, after nearly a decade, is finally receiving a cinematic adaptation from Netflix. In the book: All four members of Mtley Cre have numerous romantic interests throughout The Dirt memoir, though relationship statuses, and offspring, are fairly tangential to the narrative. Following Neils departure, Motley Crue recruited Corabi of the band the Scream to be their new vocalist. In advanced cases of ankylosing spondylitis, the inflammation can lead to the formation of new bone that causes various sections of the spine to fuse in a rigid, immobile position. Maybe we needed to make that record that we did without Vince but not call it Motley Crue, Sixx explained during an interview with Rolling Stone. 10. -Rolling Stone, Yes. We were burnt the fuck out. Education Bachelor, State University of New York, Cortland, 1967. 9. In many ways, fact-checking a movie about Mtley Cre is a ridiculous task, especially a film that says right off the bat it is merely "based" on a true story. On December 23, 1987, Nikki almost dies from a heroin overdose at the Franklin Plaza Hotel in Hollywood, after he takes an injection from a friend of Ratt guitarist Robbin Crosby. Tommys engagement to Roxy (Jordan Lane Price), whom he hits after she calls his mother a cunt, and his later marriage to Heather Locklear (who divorces him after hes seen out in public with a porn star). It didn't exactly improve the song's image that Nikki Sixx later admitted that the song's dark lyrics were inspired by his own failing relationship where he became convinced his girlfriend was cheating on him. "Freston. "It was like trying to kind of outdo each other," recalled Vince Neil. Freelance singer, songwriter, 1972. No. Nikki Sixx and Mick Mars felt that O'Dean was too much of a hippie and had an attitude that didn't quite mesh well with the others. *Sorry, there was a problem signing you up. As Ultimate Classic Rock reports, there's no proof that this kind of incident ever happened, so it makes sense that the scene was likely included to immediately establish Mars as a detached, cynical veteran. Randy Castillo replaces Tommy while Tommy pursues his solo project, Methods of Mayhem. However, the scene did happen in real life. -Rolling Stone, Not all of the band members visited the New Orleans set during the filming, but they did speak extensively with their onscreen counterparts. He put together a rap-metal act called Methods of Mayhem, and started hobnobbing and collaborating with artists such as Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes, Wu-Tang Clan member U-God, and even Limp Bizkit's Fred Durst. The Dirt starts from a very, very low place and almost never leaves it. There, they witness Vinces onstage power over women and set their sights on bringing Vince in. In the book: To kick off the recording of their third album, Vince hosts a barbecue at his mansion that runs for three or four days and nights. Clearwater, Florida. In fact, we're not even saying that some of it was. For example, a scene that takes place at the start of Mtley Cre's Theatre of Pain tour features a sad looking Vince Neil being visited by his wife, Sharise, and their daughter, Skylar. They had two children. Leon also disliked Nikki's insistence in recruiting a frontman because he was sick of sharing lead vocal duties. Let's take a look at how The Dirt ignored huge chunks of Motley Crue's true story. We were like being trained to be dysfunctional.". Ultimatums, a rehab stint, and promises all resulted, but by the end of 1991, Neil was leaving in-studio rehearsals early, "claiming he was too tired to sing ." By February 1992, bassist Nikki Sixx was over it. However, at least according to the book Cemetery Gates: Saints and Survivors of the Heavy Metal Scene, which describes the story in detail, this one is a FACT. 2023 Vox Media, LLC. That "something else" turned out to be a brand new career in uh, hip-hop? That is, until Neil returned. They met at the Denny's specifically to talk about forming a new band. "We had the final veto on the script, and we OK'd everything because we thought it was telling our story," said Sixx. Fast forward to Tommy and Nikki connecting through mutual musician friends. Spread the metal: Reviewed: July 2001 Released: 2001, Regan Books Rating: 5.0/5 Reviewer: Pete John Mulaney Teases Netflix Special 'Coming Soon'. Kristen Bell to Befriend an Unorthodox Rabbi. He borrowed a knife from a neighbor and began to stab himself above his elbow, sinking the knife all the way to the bone. Roger Glover and Ian Paice of Deep Purple happened to see them auditioning for Columbia in January 1972 and offered to produce an album for . In the book: The Dirt autobiography is like Akira Kurosawas Rashomon but in tight leather pants, in which the adventures of Mtley Cre are recounted from the different perspectives of the four main members and beyond. Doug Thaler, Motley Crue's new manager, headed down to the studio where he found the Motley Crue recording on their new album Dr. Feelgood . Eventually, his grandparents sent him back to live with his mother.He once got into an argument with his mother, after which he threw his stereo and damaged the TV. All of this makes it seem like The Dirt fearlessly shows the band members' most violent instincts, but in reality, the movie (perhaps wisely) pumps the brakes before showing just how comfortable every Crue crewman (save Mars) has historically been when it comes to hurting other people. In the movie: Tom Zutaut (good ol Pete Davidson) appears as an amalgamation of different executives, sometimes clashing with manager Doc McGhee (when Elektra is trying to get them to finish their album Theatre of Pain and get back on the road) and later Nikki (when Tom tells Mtley Cre they wont do good on their record deal and will be retaining the rights to the bands songs). Mars then turns to the camera and says, This didnt actually happen. In the book: John Corabi, former lead singer of The Scream, is brought into Mtley Cre after Vince quits in 1992. Neil was driving drunk and going close to 65mph in a 25mph zone when the car went into a 35-foot slide sideways after hitting a patch of water on the road. The relevant story lines include but are not limited to: At the start of his career, Vince marries a woman named Beth Lynn, and then marries a mud wrestler and model named Sharise Ruddell, who gives birth to their child Skylar. The Dirt devotes some time to establishing Motley Crue as a group that thinks about their band image pretty carefully (if drunkenly). Leon had performed with Lee in the group Suite 19, with the drummer later attempting to recruit the guitarist to jointhe band which would become Motley Crue. The spelling of the name eventually changed from Motley Crew to MOTTLEY CRU to Mtley Cre. (Corabi is played by Anthony Vincent, an actual heavy metal singer best known for his 10 Second Songsseries.). Where 1980s action movies have training montages, this film has one that's dedicated entirely to destroying hotel rooms and terrorizing people. It was a planned meeting to talk about putting together a new band. The trial itself was a less casual affair. The condition manifests in severe discomfort and chronic pain. That's true of all economic models, but people don't make decisions that way. Tom and Katie will learn how to respectfully set boundaries and get along at some point, but right now its not going so well. Skylar, Neil's daughter with second wife Sharise Ruddell, passed away from a rare form of cancer on August 15, 1995 at the age of four. Mars was diagnosed with ankylosing spondylitis at age 17. Doc McGhee and Doug Thaler co-managed the band although Thaler is cut out to simplify the story. It is implied that this is right after Vince rejoined, but theyre basically in their 2005 reunion tour outfits. Together, they come across a classified ad offering a loud, rude, aggressive guitar player who happens to be Mick. Unlike the film, Tom Zutaut had no involvement in any of this. In 1987, Nikki Sixx overdosed on heroin and was declared legally dead on the way to the hospital. The band didn't break up because of me racing. Thaler: The efficient-markets hypothesis remains the standard. The latter was killed in a car accident on February 12, 1968 (per Discogs), and most of the remaining members were assimilated into Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow in 1975, according to Allmusic. As Vince becomes further estranged from the group, Vince writes that if Doug had more been more than a yes-man, he could have saved the band. Eventually, Doug is fired when Mtley Cre initiates a total staff turnover after the tour promoting their sixth album, Mtley Cre, fails. Still in need of a lead singer, Tommy suggests the trio attend a party where his old buddy Vince is performing. Not that we're saying it was. Vince Neil has assaulted women multiple times (allegedly and also definitely), to the point where Nicolas Cage once had to intervene. (KaaosTV).The Mtley Cre movie had been stuck in development for more than a decade and was once attached to Paramount and MTV. Career Band member, songwriter Elves/Elf, Cortland, 1967-1972. The Dirt shows Motley Crue fighting during their first concert, and though this is played largely for laughs and depicted as a fair-ish "band vs. hostile crowd" fight, it lays some groundwork for the fact that the band doesn't hesitate to throw a punch apart from Mick Mars, who remains onstage with his guitar. He got out to help Honey collect her teeth. The 100 Best Albums of 2022, 2. After the actors were cast, the producers had them go through a month or so of training that they referred to as "band camp". A lot of laughter, a lot of crying, a lot of shock. 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